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Manfred Sideous
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Posted - 2015.06.12 01:21:26 -
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+1 this is a excellent change that will help to open up combat/fleet tactics. I supported and pushed hard for this.
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Manfred Sideous
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Posted - 2015.06.12 02:15:09 -
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Budrick3 wrote:Manfred Sideous wrote:+1 this is a excellent change that will help to open up combat/fleet tactics. I supported and pushed hard for this. Good luck getting re-elected.
I am not a politician. I am not here to kiss anyones ass. If I run and I don't get re-elected so be it. I support measures , mchanics , changes that will make eve more exciting more dynamic more balanced and more deadly. Destruction is the lifeblood of Eve. Nearly every profession and activity in Eve is fueled by things exploding. More explosions means people in space doing things playing the game. More interaction which is the foundation of a MMORPG.
I'LL GIVE YOU DEATH AND YOU WILL LOVE ME FOR IT.
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Manfred Sideous
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.06.12 02:29:40 -
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Miner Hottie wrote:Manfred Sideous wrote:Budrick3 wrote:Manfred Sideous wrote:+1 this is a excellent change that will help to open up combat/fleet tactics. I supported and pushed hard for this. Good luck getting re-elected. I am not a politician. I am not here to kiss anyones ass. If I run and I don't get re-elected so be it. I support measures , mchanics , changes that will make eve more exciting more dynamic more balanced and more deadly. Destruction is the lifeblood of Eve. Nearly every profession and activity in Eve is fueled by things exploding. More explosions means people in space doing things playing the game. More interaction which is the foundation of a MMORPG. I'LL GIVE YOU DEATH AND YOU WILL LOVE ME FOR IT. So by making life much harder for fcs, especially newer FCs and new bros in general. More stuff will explode?
Bombers were retardedly op and combat probing was very op. They strangled tactics and doctrines. Ideally id like to see those things nerfed or rebalanced but this change has the effect that it hits both of those things at the same. To put this into context drone assign was largely removed as we know it. CCP said that they think it is bad when other people play the game for you. Fleet Warping falls under the same rationale. This change will actually help FC's as they will have more choices on tactics and viable doctrines to put to the field. Currently everything has to be low/sig & bomb proof . This is why you don't see many shield tanked BS doctrines or more kiting or sniping doctrines. This change will help open up the battlefield to something more than Eagles , Tengus , Ishtars and Domis.
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Manfred Sideous
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.06.12 02:33:46 -
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Crazy Candy wrote:Manfred Sideous wrote:Budrick3 wrote:Manfred Sideous wrote:+1 this is a excellent change that will help to open up combat/fleet tactics. I supported and pushed hard for this. Good luck getting re-elected. I am not a politician. I am not here to kiss anyones ass. If I run and I don't get re-elected so be it. I support measures , mchanics , changes that will make eve more exciting more dynamic more balanced and more deadly. Destruction is the lifeblood of Eve. Nearly every profession and activity in Eve is fueled by things exploding. More explosions means people in space doing things playing the game. More interaction which is the foundation of a MMORPG. I'LL GIVE YOU DEATH AND YOU WILL LOVE ME FOR IT. have fun when major FCs quit because the dont want to juggle more accounts than they already do or when aspiring FCs don't want to try because they aren't space rich to own multiple accounts good **** dude
Maybe just maybe you can get dudes in your alliance to help scout and probe instead of doing it all yourself. Crazy Idea I know ( using teamwork and all that crazy whippity dippity stuff).
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Manfred Sideous
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.06.12 02:37:45 -
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Pyralissa wrote:Manfred Sideous wrote:I am not a politician. I am not here to kiss anyones ass. If I run and I don't get re-elected so be it. I support measures , mchanics , changes that will make eve more exciting more dynamic more balanced and more deadly. Destruction is the lifeblood of Eve. Nearly every profession and activity in Eve is fueled by things exploding. More explosions means people in space doing things playing the game. More interaction which is the foundation of a MMORPG.
I'LL GIVE YOU DEATH AND YOU WILL LOVE ME FOR IT. You are not a politician, but you sure talk like one. You're asked to explain why you think this change is good for the game and you offer a bunch of nonsense platitudes by way of response. How does this lead to "more explosions"? It makes Slippery Petes, the most cowardly block-level doctrine in the game, almost impossible to engage. It reduces the power of bombers, literally the most 'explosive' ship in the game. It makes combat probing more difficult, meaning that kiting shoot-and-run tactics (Garmur and Orthrus pilots will love this change) even more powerful because they can obliterate tackle, roll safes and be assured that they'll never have to worry about being outnumbered when the counter-attack comes. And of course it makes life more tedious, boring and unnecessarily difficult for wormholers, explorers and mission runners. Who it will benefit, especially once alliance bookmarks are deployed, is tightly nit organizations composed of single alliances that frequently engage coalition fleets composed of multiple alliances, who will still have to come up with annoying work arounds. You've championed a change that benefits cowards, hinders literally every facet of the benefit of the game all for the benefit of making bombing slightly more difficult. Well done, you really should consider running for office.
FWIW I am pushing to see unprobeableGäó ships destroyed as a thing forever. I have suggested to CCP that they limit 1 eccm per ship hull. But however allow people to fit as many remote eccm's as they want. That way you could still achieve really high sensor strength. However you would first have to land , lock , activate the module. During this time those ships are all very probeable.
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Manfred Sideous
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.06.12 02:39:16 -
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Xavier Thorm wrote:Kujun Nashja wrote:Now remove anchoring, fleet warps in general and drone assist an we are golden.  Oh god the chaos of large fleet battles with everyone piloting instead of anchoring. I love it.
IKR
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Manfred Sideous
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.06.12 02:41:57 -
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Lyra Gerie wrote:I like this change as much as I hate it. I love the idea of individuals being more responsible, but it KILLS quality of living at the same time. Unfortunately the two are fairly closely linked.
This issue goes double in wormholes where bookmarks are used almost more often for logistics than killing or fleet fights.
Perhaps a new deployable anchors and or anchor probes?
An anchor probe would show up on D-scan when launched at a 100% signal before showing on grid. They would have a warp of 4.5 AU/s and EHP around 10-25k depending on meta level and balance. After landing on grid it would auto deploy over 5-15 seconds again based on meta level and balance.
The attackers can now still warp to a target however it gives the target fair warning and time to destroy the probe before the scouts fleet can warp in.
As for deployable anchors they would stay in space for a certain amount of time or require some kind of fuel to stay anchored. There could be those that are short term used in single battles, or long term/more global anchors.
So the guy in the wormhole warps to the bookmark and WWWWWW's up. Then everyone gets fleet warped OMG THE TRAVESTY THAT THOSE EXTRA FEW SECONDS WILL CREATE. THINK OF ALL THE BELLY LENT YOU COULD HAVE PICKED IN THOSE FEW PRECIOUS SECONDS. DAMN YOU CCP DAMN YOU!!!!!!!111ON1E
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Manfred Sideous
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.06.12 02:43:45 -
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Winter Archipelago wrote:Manfred Sideous wrote:
Maybe just maybe you can get dudes in your alliance to help scout and probe instead of doing it all yourself. Crazy Idea I know ( using teamwork and all that crazy whippity dippity stuff).
What about smaller groups? Groups that don't have thousands of people? Who don't even have hundreds? What about when you're in fleets of 6-8 people (and fewer)? Do we have to now dedicate someone to probing? Are we to be limited to D3's and T3's so each person can fit both a probe launcher and their combat fit? Does the answer once again become "use an alt?" Large nullsec groups aren't the only players out there, and not everybody wants to be just another F1-pusher, or just another number in a TIDI slug-fest. This change affects everybody, but it doesn't affect everybody equally.
T3 destroyers have a slot for a probe launcher last I checked they are very popular ships in small gangs HTH.
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Manfred Sideous
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.06.12 02:59:30 -
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Luft Reich wrote:I see our wormhole CSM is valiantly defending the life style of people in wormhole space....  Yeah, it might be good for nullsec but have you really thought about the effects on wormhole space? Clearly not.
Warping yourself or warping to Wwwww's in fleet Zomgz life is over .
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Manfred Sideous
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.06.12 03:10:28 -
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Long Muppet wrote:Manfred Sideous wrote:
To put this into context drone assign was largely removed as we know it. CCP said that they think it is bad when other people play the game for you.
This is a great point Manny! Maybe, just like with drone assign we should allow squad commanders to fleet warp their 10 people. This ensures you are still taking a nerfbat to the ridiculously huge nullsec fleets while not simultaneously killing small gangs. I get that having a scout in a large fleet isn't a big deal as they generally have many of them, but requiring a small gang to now dedicate one of their pilots as scout is unnecessary and ruins game play. Finding a middle ground (just as we did we drone assign) is the best option.
Good suggestion and this is the exact reason CCP asks for feedback in these threads
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Manfred Sideous
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.06.12 03:38:59 -
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Vala Ancalagon wrote:Manfred Sideous wrote:Lyra Gerie wrote:I like this change as much as I hate it. I love the idea of individuals being more responsible, but it KILLS quality of living at the same time. Unfortunately the two are fairly closely linked.
This issue goes double in wormholes where bookmarks are used almost more often for logistics than killing or fleet fights.
Perhaps a new deployable anchors and or anchor probes?
An anchor probe would show up on D-scan when launched at a 100% signal before showing on grid. They would have a warp of 4.5 AU/s and EHP around 10-25k depending on meta level and balance. After landing on grid it would auto deploy over 5-15 seconds again based on meta level and balance.
The attackers can now still warp to a target however it gives the target fair warning and time to destroy the probe before the scouts fleet can warp in.
As for deployable anchors they would stay in space for a certain amount of time or require some kind of fuel to stay anchored. There could be those that are short term used in single battles, or long term/more global anchors.
So the guy in the wormhole warps to the bookmark and WWWWWW's up. Then everyone gets fleet warped OMG THE TRAVESTY THAT THOSE EXTRA FEW SECONDS WILL CREATE. THINK OF ALL THE BELLY LENT YOU COULD HAVE PICKED IN THOSE FEW PRECIOUS SECONDS. DAMN YOU CCP DAMN YOU!!!!!!!111ON1E This is the type of mature representation the CSM provides. Really, there are plenty of well-reasoned arguments against this change, and a few decent alternatives that would achieve the "stated goals" of this. There is no need to mock opposing views even if you don't agree with them.
Calm down , forgive me for having a little fun. The CSM are players who volunteer our time out of love for the game. I am not professional and will not be professional or political. I give feedback and suggest things to improve eve thats it. I was takin the **** because a large portion of the replies to this change are people going batshit crazy over having to warp themselves in just a few instances. I was poking fun at it. Fun in a video game discussion CRAZY I KNOW!
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Manfred Sideous
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.06.12 03:41:08 -
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Orca Platypus wrote:Luft Reich wrote:Manfred Sideous wrote:Luft Reich wrote:I see our wormhole CSM is valiantly defending the life style of people in wormhole space.... Yeah, it might be good for nullsec but have you really thought about the effects on wormhole space? Clearly not. Warping yourself or warping to Wwwww's in fleet Zomgz life is over . Dearest nullsec CSM, I have jumped through a wormhole and there are krabs (carebears) running sites. To find these krabs running sites launch combat probes and tell Sabres to jump, I then punt them to these krabs whether it be capitals or otherwise, to get initial tackle because krabs get very scared by the new signiture they see, or if they are just in the chain, the combat probes. With the proposed changes I must combat probe them down, warp on grid, hope I don't get decloacked by a random object, sleeper, or player and then have the fleet warp in. And all the while krabs see the signiture and are able to scuttle away. "You are so dumb luft we are just nerfing power projection in wh space" as Ccp has said. Well let us look at what they mean by that. Basically that means that krabs will be safer because that is who we as a community are projecting on. And two, that only large groups such as LZHX, HK, QEX, etc are doing this ganking and if you are attempting to slow them down from ganking carebears to keep wormhole space dangerous than that defeats the whole purpose of wormhole space. Also beyond killing krabs there is warping a fleet to a hole with various classes of ships, triage, guardians, T3s, etc. But I don't expect you to understand the magnitude of these changes to wormhole space life style, but I sure hope the two "wormhole csm" do. Excuse typos its 4:20 am (lol) and I wrote this on my phone. 1) Any changes that makes ganks require more skill (than 0 it requires now) are good. 2) Manfred is not a null CSM, he's a blue donut CSM. 3) wormhole has no CSM, the only wormhole CSM you had has defected to blue donut. You know it really shows who you are when people are concerned about content quality and you just cry "mah free krabs are getting away!".
I hate blues blues should all die. You don't know me , who I am or what or what I don't support. Check yourself.
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Manfred Sideous
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.06.12 06:14:20 -
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Budrick3 wrote:
Poor attempt at saving face.
Rule of all holes, stop digging when you are in one.
Your embarrassing your alliance, the people that put faith in voting for you, and most of all, your embarrassing yourself.
Does this mean I am not gonna win a popularity contest ? Aww shucks im gutted really.
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Manfred Sideous
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.06.12 06:58:14 -
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Tara Read wrote:Manfred Sideous wrote:Budrick3 wrote:
Poor attempt at saving face.
Rule of all holes, stop digging when you are in one.
Your embarrassing your alliance, the people that put faith in voting for you, and most of all, your embarrassing yourself.
Does this mean I am not gonna win a popularity contest ? Aww shucks im gutted really. Weren't you elected to instill positive changes for a majority of the Eve Community? Or am I just being fickle thinking the CSM is supposed to do that.... I mean honestly. Didn't you guys take into consideration the myriad of problems this creates for people? Even if the intentions were good, the execution is utterly terrible. I mean really terrible. Can't you guys come up with something better than this? I mean besides terrible icons and super skins for only half the titans at 35 USD a pop....
I mean we can suggest things and give feedback however at the end of the day its CCP who decides what goes in and what doesn't. With that said I wanted to see combat probing and bombers nerfed. This change accomplishes both. Is it exact optimum ? Thats subjective I have gotten lots of positive feedback and likes for my post in regards to the subject. However as normal it is usually those that are dissatisfied with a issue that are usually most vocal. Unfortunately with constraints of NDA sometimes its hard for CSM to explain positions clearly. Perhaps you don't feel this is a positive change but others do. I can remember a vocal portion of the community unhappy when the AOE doomsday was removed or when Jump Fatigue was added. I have to say I feel for CCP it is nigh impossible to please everyone all at the same time.
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Manfred Sideous
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.06.12 07:09:07 -
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Tara Read wrote:Manfred Sideous wrote:Tara Read wrote:Manfred Sideous wrote:Budrick3 wrote:
Poor attempt at saving face.
Rule of all holes, stop digging when you are in one.
Your embarrassing your alliance, the people that put faith in voting for you, and most of all, your embarrassing yourself.
Does this mean I am not gonna win a popularity contest ? Aww shucks im gutted really. Weren't you elected to instill positive changes for a majority of the Eve Community? Or am I just being fickle thinking the CSM is supposed to do that.... I mean honestly. Didn't you guys take into consideration the myriad of problems this creates for people? Even if the intentions were good, the execution is utterly terrible. I mean really terrible. Can't you guys come up with something better than this? I mean besides terrible icons and super skins for only half the titans at 35 USD a pop.... I mean we can suggest things and give feedback however at the end of the day its CCP who decides what goes in and what doesn't. With that said I wanted to see combat probing and bombers nerfed. This change accomplishes both. Is it exact optimum ? Thats subjective I have gotten lots of positive feedback and likes for my post in regards to the subject. However as normal it is usually those that are dissatisfied with a issue that are usually most vocal. Unfortunately with constraints of NDA sometimes its hard for CSM to explain positions clearly. Perhaps you don't feel this is a positive change but others do. I can remember a vocal portion of the community unhappy when the AOE doomsday was removed or when Jump Fatigue was added. I have to say I feel for CCP it is nigh impossible to please everyone all at the same time. Phoebe was a necessity mainly due to the power projection your group had as a Super dominant force as well as others. But I digress. These changes are like cutting off ones foot to deal with trimming toe nails. Why not just deal with bombers directly? Why make the rest of us suffer with these changes? These are utterly rediculous in means and context. All you are doing is placing more weight upon FC's and making people create more alts for nothing of benefit. I suggest you go to CCP and scrap this whole ordeal. If you want to nerf bombers deal with the platform directly. Not break an unbroken mechanic that already suffers from grid and placement issues.
I am a FC I feel no extra weight from this change and if I did. I get volunteers from fleet to help me.
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Manfred Sideous
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.06.12 07:49:55 -
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Tara Read wrote:Manfred Sideous wrote:I am a FC I feel no extra weight from this change and if I did. I get volunteers from fleet to help me. That's a terrible excuse Manfred. Come on.... so you expect other FC's to force other people to play fleet jockey or get another account. I rest my case.
Teamwork its a alien concept I guess hey?
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Manfred Sideous
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
1177
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Posted - 2015.06.12 07:53:48 -
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Kendarr wrote:I see that Manfred Sideous has companioned this change as CSM and now no one likes it he is seriously butt hurt.
Confirming. Please someone confirm this confirmation.
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